Hi, Kat with Standing Stone Kennels, and this is Rogue and we just got done camping over the 4th of July. And it was a good experience for Rogue, but also kind of exhausting for us because she really likes to pull on lead. So that gave us a good indication that she is ready to start heeling using our easy lead, because she likes to, well, she's paying attention to bugs and stuff right now, but she really likes to pull and then work her way around your legs and get all tangled up and get herself all tangled up.